Monday, April 16, 2012

Advice please about train and metro tickets please



Hi,





We (a family of 6 and a baby) are going to Paris next Saturday for three days. Ive been told its best to buy a Carnet of ten tickets for the Metro.





Does anyone know how much this costs?





Will we be able to use these tickes for our journey on the RER Train into Paris (or do we pay seperately for this) and then on the Metro to our Hotel.





We are Arriving at CDG Airport and staying at the Radisson in Boulogne. Are ther different price tickets covering different areas?





HELP please we want to try and make the journey as stress free as possible with having the baby with us. any help would be much appreciated/





PS.





We will probably have to check out of our Hotel early Monday and dont fly till 22.00. instead of having to trek back to our hotel to pick our luggage up (only about 3 holdalls). Can anyone tell me if any of the main train station have a left luggage or lockers. So we can enjoy our day out then collect them early evening.



oops sorry if ive gone on a bit !!!!




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think this could help you :



http://www.ratp.info/touristes/ clic on english version and go ahead




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Hi Holidaybreak





Your hotel is about 300 metres outside the periphique (%26quot;ring road) that defines Paris from its suburbs. The closest metro station is Porte de Saint Cloud about 300 m away just inside the periphique or Marcel Sembat, about 300 further out, both on Metro line 9.





If you decide to take the RER B in to Paris (price for an adult is about 8.50 Euros and children 4 to 9 half price and under 4s free) you would to Gare du Nord and change to line 4 direction Porte d%26#39;Orleans and change at Strassbourg St Denis to line 9 direction Pont de Sevres and alight at one of the two close metro station (my choice would be Marcel Sembat).





However, since the hotel is near the Periphique I recommend taking a minibus taxi from CDG (an official Taxis Parisiens from the main stand at CDG). Apparently about 1 in 4 Taxis in Paris re the minibus style so it is just a case of waiting at the top of the taxi line for the next one to come. I am not sure of the price but barring a lot of traffic it should not exceed 45 to 50 Euros at worst plus 1 Euro per bag after the first and will save you a lot of worry. Also see whether the hotel has a shuttle service and if so compare the price.





Carnets for travel on the metro (and on the RER train lines but only within the 20 arrondissements of Paris), cost 11.10 Euros (1.11 Euros each) for 10 tickets for adults as opposed to 1.50 Euros each and might be a good solution depending on how much you will be travelling by metro or bus. Your baby will travel free, as will any child under 4. Children from 4 to 9 can travel half price so a carnet for them will be 5.55 Euros.





I have not heard of the tickets jeunes for weekend days and public holidays before I saw it on this website tonight but if you have children 10 - 26, given that you are there for a weekend, at 3.20 Euros all day if they are taking more than 3 trips in a day, that could be good value for them.





www.transport-idf.com/frontal…





www.transport-idf.com/frontal…





If you would want to jump on and off buses and metros all day and were likely to use it at least 5 times, for the adults over 26, or those over 9 on normal business days, the Mobilis pass for zones 1 and 2 which is 5.60 Euros for a day (%26quot;calendar day%26quot;) could be worthwhile too. I used the Mobilis when I was in Paris last October on days I wanted to go on the Metro or bus a lot and found that the freedom to use it made me catch buses for a couple of kms when otherwise I might have walked rather than feel I %26quot;wasted%26quot; a ticket from a carnet.





All in all, since your hotel is on a metro line, I suggest that if you might want to hop on and off at will then you consider the ticket jeunes for 10-26 year olds on the two weekend days at 3.20 Euros each and a mobilis for the parents and anyone over 26 on those days. Buy one or more carnets for the 4-9s as needed, or even single 1/2 price tickets on the last day if you will not be travelling by metro much that day. For the adults and 10 to 26 yos on the Monday, depending on the number of public transport trips, either a Mobilis or a carnet.





For the trip to CDG on the way home it depends on how many of your children/family members are over 9 years old. You can leave your luggage at Gare du Nord in the bagages consigne lockers which are located under the Eurostar entrance and near the taxi stand. You go downstairs and it is a secured area and you put your bags through security and put them in one or more lockers (go for the largest ones available) and then keep your locker receipt in a very secure place to be able to collect it. It is open from early to late.





Then go sightseeing on your last day but allow time to find the locker storage and pass security and find your locker(s) and work out how to open them etc etc while still allowing time to get to CDG. Since you will be at Gare du Nord and will be au fait with Metro and RER by then, the simplest way to travel to CDG would be and EXPRESS (not an all stops) to CDG on RER Line B from Gare du Nord at the 8.50-ish price one way per over 9 year old and half price for the over 3s




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Faux has given you a very comprehensive set of options!





The only thing I would add is that the Metro service from Porte de St Cloud (Line 9) is not particularly good for seeing the main attractions in Paris and that would involve changing. As the Metro is never particularly good for young travellers once the novelty has passed - all those ticket barriers, escalators and stairs and nothing to see - have a look at the RATP buses, particularly 72 (for the Eiffel Tour - Louvre) and 22 (for the Arc de Triomphe - Opera).





You can get complete, clear route plans here, by typing in the digits of your bus route at the end of the web address, e.g. 72:





www.ratp.info/orienter/f_plan.php…





With the new t+ carnets you can change buses as long as your journey does not exceed 1.5 hours. Note you cannot buy carnets on the buses so you need to keep a supply if that is your travel option.




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AllonsEU has given excellent advice and I had not considered a bus instead of a metro from the Porte St Cloud Metro. I agree that kids would much prefer watching the city pass by on a bus unless you are wanting to return quickly from a long day out, or want to get from A to B quickly.




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Thanks so much for all the great advice. Sorry i wasnt a bit clearer in our party there are 6 Adults and a 9 month old baby.





Sorry if i%26#39;m being a bit thick but if we but a carnet of 10 tickets can we use the same ticket from the airport right through to our hotel or do we need a seperate ticket for the RER Train.





Thanks for the great advice about the left luggage it will save us so much hassle



cheers !




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No you need a ticket on the RER from CDG that is about 8.50 per person one way




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You could also think carefully about the minibus taxi option even if you needed two taxis. It is a lot of hassle to take the RER and metro in to Paris at over 50 Euros at 6X 8.50 Euros than to find a minicab taxi at CDG at about 50 Euros plus 1 Euro per bag over 1 bag




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Yes I see what you mean, are there mini cabs that will take 6 Adults and a baby or do you think we would have to get 2.





Thanks a lot for your advice its really been helpfull.




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About your baggage on return - you also could ask the hotel whether the bell desk will keep it during the day after you check out, and just go back and get it before you leave for your return flight (i.e., return from the hotel). This is very standard in the US, and I would be surprised if it were any different there.




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I looked at the blue taxi site and the site of another company in the official Paris taxis %26quot;Taxis Parisiens%26quot; and they both had a limit of 5 in their %26quot;minivans%26quot; or %26quot;people carriers%26quot;.





I checked the Expedia page for the Radisson Boulogne and in the %26quot;property amenities%26quot; it claims the hotel offers %26quot;Airport transportation (surcharge)%26quot;. The hotel is sure to agree to hold your luggage for the day as Berkeley T said. If you decide to look into that, you could enquire of the hotel at the same time what the transportation %26quot;surcharge%26quot; would be and whether it is reliable/ on time etc. If so, if the price is not OTT, that could be the best solution for both arrival and departure.

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